Episode #13 - 2020 ATA SHOW From Indy - Part 2 of 2

Published: 2020-01-16
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Duration: 61 min

In this episode

ata

Terry jokingly suggests putting Real World’s Giant Miscanthus wall in the QuietKat booth next year as driving obstacles. 40:47 (light moment)

bedding-cover

Dean Wessels from Fairbury, Illinois asks how to establish good bedding cover in timber, including whether to use TSI, hinge cutting, or girdling. 45:12

calling

Terry recommends listeners go back to episode 6 to hear an example of a hunt ruined by a nearby hunter rattling constantly. 23:14
Craig Koopman from Bartelso, Illinois asks what calling and rattling techniques work best for each part of the hunting season. 19:22

land-consulting

Don plans to travel to Missouri, Southern Illinois, Indiana, Western Illinois, and Ohio in the coming weeks for land consulting. 53:56

master-class

Don announces Master Class dates of March 14 and April 4, both Saturdays. 54:57

mathews

Don has been with Mathews for about twenty years and says the company’s integrity is unquestionable. 3:37
Don believes more people would buy Mathews if they knew what the company does with its profits. 3:48
Don became a paid member of Mathews’ pro staff in 2005. 4:28
Don has not shot an arrow from any bow besides Mathews since getting his first one. 5:10
Terry says he and Don have combined thirty-five years without shooting anything but Mathews or Mission equipment. 5:52
Terry now shoots a Mission crossbow because of a shoulder injury, keeping him within the Mathews family of companies. 5:37
Mathews launched its VXR bow line in November, offering two models, a 31.5 inch and a 28 inch. 6:43
Mathews sees crossbows as a tool to help people who can’t pull enough poundage or who are injured or elderly stay in the outdoors. 9:52
Don relays that Matt McPherson told him Mathews has dug roughly 70 water wells in impoverished countries as part of its giving. 15:16
A Mathews representative says Matt McPherson reminds the team at every meeting that their purpose is to make money to do God’s work. 16:19
Terry asks Mark where listeners interested in Mathews should go to learn more or buy a bow. 17:40
Terry asks Mark about Mathews’ big year and how pre-release feedback on new bows has been ahead of the show. 6:30

off-season

Don tells listeners the post-season is the best time to plan for next year, saying next season starts now. 60:15

quietkat

Don says he’s glad he got a QuietKat because he now uses it more than he ever expected. 29:50
Don says the QuietKat lets him ride right past deer in open fields without spooking them, unlike an ATV. 32:11
Don’s friend Brad Davis told him about the QuietKat and convinced him to buy one. 32:48
QuietKat developed a new rear end this year with a modular dropout letting customers switch between a geared bike and a single speed bike. 33:45
Don says he’s had his QuietKat up to 30 miles per hour, which feels fast enough given his age. 36:47
QuietKat was founded in 2012 and has stayed focused on portability since. 37:52
A QuietKat representative compares the brand’s positioning in the e-bike space to YETI in the cooler market. 38:27
Don credits the QuietKat team as bringing the first cell cams, the smart scouters, to the hunting industry. 40:01
Don says the QuietKat team was first to bring electric bikes to the hunting industry. 40:12
Terry plans to run QuietKat’s new direct drive model this year since it avoids gear changes on the back sprocket. 43:25
Don jokes that his wife suggested they take up bike riding to get in shape, floating it as a QuietKat marketing angle. 41:13 (light moment)
Terry asks Jake the best way for someone curious about QuietKat to find specs and purchase a bike. 41:53

real-world

Terry says Real World modeled its business approach in part after Mathews. 18:40
Terry says master class attendees see the actual test plots on his farm done over the years for Real World. 58:39
Don says his farm has served as the proving ground for Real World products, and anything that failed never wore the Real World label. 59:48

sponsorship-ethics

Terry says Real World only signs sponsors whose products they personally used before being sponsored. 2:48
Terry believes it is unethical for a pro staffer to recommend a product to someone else if they haven’t personally used it and seen its advantage. 3:07

vxr

The Mathews rep shoots the shorter 28 inch VXR for his hunting situations without wanting to give up target accuracy. 8:26
Terry asks whether the new bow-mount accessories only fit the VXR or can be adapted to older Mathews bows. 13:28

Deer activity

unnamed buck (hunt) 8:10
unnamed buck (harvest) 22:11
unnamed buck (harvest) 23:34
unnamed buck (hunt) 23:37
unnamed buck (harvest) 51:43
Smokey (harvest) 57:27
unnamed buck (harvest) 57:54
unnamed buck (harvest) 58:15

Listener questions

Question: Craig Koopman from Bartelso, Illinois asks what calling and rattling techniques work best for each part of the hunting season. 19:22 — asked by Craig Koopman

Answer: Don says he avoids calling and rattling because for every mature buck brought in, twenty times more will be spooked off by it. 20:43
Answer: Terry says he doesn’t rattle, and on rare occasions calls only while watching the deer’s reaction, never blind. 22:01

Question: Dean Wessels from Fairbury, Illinois asks how to establish good bedding cover in timber, including whether to use TSI, hinge cutting, or girdling. 45:12 — asked by Dean Wessels

Answer: Don says he isn’t a big fan of hinge cutting, though it has its place in habitat work. 46:27
Answer: Don explains the goal of girdling, dropping, and hinge-cutting trees is to let sunlight reach the ground for cover growth. 47:56
Answer: Don says human intrusion, more than habitat quality, is the main thing that pushes mature bucks off a property. 50:44

Question: Terry asks Mark where listeners interested in Mathews should go to learn more or buy a bow. 17:40

Answer: The Mathews rep directs people to mathewsinc.com for information and to their local dealer to get a bow. 17:47

Question: Terry asks Jake the best way for someone curious about QuietKat to find specs and purchase a bike. 41:53

Answer: Jake says QuietKat supports its dealer network and lists all dealers on the company website for customers to find. 42:03

Question: Terry asks whether the new bow-mount accessories only fit the VXR or can be adapted to older Mathews bows. 13:28

Answer: The sling and SCS accessories only fit the VXR’s machined cup, but the engaged limb legs bow stand works back to the hang-on line. 13:39

Question: Terry asks Mark about Mathews’ big year and how pre-release feedback on new bows has been ahead of the show. 6:30

Answer: Mark says Mathews launched the VXR line in November with two models, a 31.5 inch and a 28 inch bow. 6:43

Terry and Don discussed the sponsors underpinning Real World, emphasizing that both Real World and Mathews only endorse products they’ve personally used. Don, a Mathews pro staffer since 2005, praised the company’s integrity, relaying that Matt McPherson has dug roughly 70 water wells abroad through profits, and noted Real World modeled its business on Mathews. A Mathews rep detailed the new VXR line launched in November with 31.5 and 28 inch models, and fielded a question on whether new accessories fit older bows. QuietKat’s rep discussed the brand’s e-bike history, a new modular rear end, and dealer network, while Don credited QuietKat with bringing cell cams and e-bikes to hunting. Listener questions covered calling and rattling risks, with Don noting it spooks far more mature bucks than it draws in, plus bedding cover techniques like hinge cutting and girdling. Don also announced upcoming land consulting travel and Master Class dates.

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